Blog #152: Smart Alternatives to
Traditional Retirement Plans (Part 2 of 5)

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The case study in this Blog involves an extension of Blog #150: Smart Alternatives to Traditional Retirement Plans (Part 1 of 5) in which we introduced a conversion of $600,000 in IRA funds to a Roth IRA coupled with Indexed Universal Life (“IUL”) in order to amplify retirement planning for Robert and Ann Baxter, both age 60.  The results were powerful as we were able to meet their annual retirement cash flow goal of $150,000 after tax -- indexed at 3.00% -- while also providing an increase of almost $4 million in their long-range net worth.  You can review the results below in one of the Wealthy and Wise® graphs from Blog #150:

Strategy 1: Status Quo - Keep the IRA
vs.
Strategy 2: Convert the IRA to a Roth IRA
vs.
Strategy 3: Convert the IRA to a Roth IRA and Add IUL
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This was all accomplished without requiring any additional out-of-pocket cost to fund the income tax on the Roth conversion and the $70,000 of premium on the $951,000 of IUL.  These costs were covered using withdrawals from the Baxter’s taxable account.

Inherited IRA vs. Inherited Roth IRA

There is another significant aspect to this analysis involving a potential inheritance alternative that Robert and Ann can provide for their son, Scott, currently age 35.

For the purpose of this evaluation, let’s assume that Scott inherits either the IRA or the Roth (as calculated in Blog #150) at his age 65, 35 years hence.  Examine the huge difference below.

Comparison of Inherited IRAs
for Scott Baxter
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Bob Ritter's blog 152 image-2-comparison-of-inherited-IRAs

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Not only does the Roth add considerably to the parents’ net worth as described in Blog #150, it ends up providing Scott with over $11 million of after tax, retirement cash flow, a gain of $9.6 million over the Inherited IRA.

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Conclusion

The next time you have parents considering a Roth conversion, be sure to bring the issue of inherited IRAs to their attention as it is truly a showstopper.  The impact on heirs of an Inherited Roth makes the original decision to convert to a Roth almost irresistible.

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Afterthought

In Blog #151, we discussed the sales opportunities that a Trump presidency provides.

Let’s assume Donald Trump is able to convince the Republican-led Congress to reduce income tax brackets.  In that case, assume that Robert and Ann’s son, Scott, finds himself in a lower pre-retirement tax bracket; however, by the time he retires, the Democrats manage to hike his tax rate to 70%.  In this case, how does the Inherited IRA vs. Inherited Roth IRA comparison look?

Comparison of Inherited IRAs
for Scott Baxter
Retirement Tax Bracket: 70%
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Bob Ritter's blog 152 image-3-comparison-of-inherited-IRAs-retirement-tax-bracket

Wow!  After tax cash flow from the Inherited IRA is reduced by 57%.  Anyone want to guess which is more likely to occur – long-range increases or decreases in income tax rates?

Some in Congress (the Senate Committee on Finance) are now weighing the elimination of stretch IRAs to any one other than a spouse thereby requiring distributions over, say, five years. My friend, Gonzalo Garcia, CLU, Partner, AgencyONE, had an interesting comment about this in his January 12 Blog:

For years, we have heard “save for retirement, take advantage of the IRA deduction, take advantage of your employer’s 401(k) match” and for what? So that Congress can conveniently change the laws at their discretion to accelerate the taxes due.

Both Roth IRAs and cash value life insurance avoid this issue – but keep your powder dry as we may have to fight this battle in years to come.

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